
Dr. Phil Maffetone returns for a 4th Extramilest Show conversation. He is a recognized coach, researcher and clinician. He is also a musician with deep connections in the world of music. We discuss the relationship between music and health; the power of music and its relationship to the body. His book, B sharp! on the same subject, is out now.
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Enjoy my conversation with Dr. Phil Maffetone!
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Other Extramilest Shows with Dr. Phil Maffetone
- Dr. Phil Maffetone Interview about Heart Rate Training, Nutrition and Recovery
- Dr. Phil Maffetone on MAF Training with Low Heart Rate, Low Carb, Intervals, Ketosis, Fasting & more
- Dr. Phil Maffetone on Improving Your Running and Health | Extramilest Show #39
Links & Tools mentioned:
- Dr Phil Maffetone – the 5 minute power break
- The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing (book) by Dr Phil Maffetone
- Danny Dreyer (books) – Chi Running, Chi Walking
- The Creative Act: A Way of Being (book) by Rick Rubin
- George Martin (Biography)
- Carl Jung (about)
- Free association (more information)
- Digital Minimalism (book) by Carl Newport
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Show notes Dr Phil Maffetone (Round 4):
- 00:00 Train your brain
- 2:21 Sponsors: PATH projects, LMNT
- 04:45 Welcome back Dr. Phil Maffetone!
- 05:30 B sharp! Music as part of a holistic approach to health.
- 10:02 Music for athletes
- 16:22 Listening while exercising, or not.
- 22:41 Breathing patterns and brain adaptation
- 25:30 Listening to the body
- 27:00 Working with Rick Rubin
- 33:50 Self-doubt
- 34:45 The 5-minute power break, improving body function
- 37:50 Hearing new things in music
- 41:45 Real music vs junk, genre
- 46:15 Heart rate and music, alpha state, multi-tasking
- 52:00 Day dreaming vs distraction
- 53:25 You are addicted to your phone!
- 57:29 The brain and age
- 1:00:32 Our passions and dreams
- 1:01:35 Start line race day nerves
- 1:07:45 Impact of music on race day
- 1:10:27 The trainable brain
- 1:12:33 Where to find out more about Dr Phil Maffetone and his work
- 1:14:03 Advice to optimize health and performance
- 1:14:40 More training is often not better
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