
“It’s not if things get hard, it’s when things get hard. There’s always a low point or multiple low points. When that happens, I just remind myself that I paid for this. I chose to be here. I trained for this.” – Jeff Pelletier on The Extramilest Show #119
Jeff Pelletier is an ultra runner and filmmaker from Vancouver. He shares mental strategies that work for any distance, from 5Ks to marathons to ultras. We explore how to push through low points, problem-solve when things go wrong, and why the hardest moments often become the most meaningful.
We also discuss my experiences pacing / crewing Jeff at Badwater 135, where we experienced plenty of highs and lows together.
My new book Running Breakthroughs is now available worldwide as Audio Book, autographed book and eBook.
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Here are some of the topics covered:
- 0:00 – Jeff Pelletier on low points, trail running, & finishing strong
- 1:01 – LMNT Sponsorship
- 2:00 – My book “Running Breakthroughs”
- 2:32 – How Jeff found running and what pulled him in
- 6:30 – Road to trail transition
- 9:17 – Advice for runners going from road to trail
- 11:29 – Redefining performance goals
- 17:38 – First trail/ultra races experiences
- 21:58 – Community and mentorship
- 24:48 – What’s it like to run a 200+ mile race?
- 32:19 – Right mindset in working through low points in ultras
- 37:22 – The “final 10 miles” feeling
- 43:15 – Badwater 135 experience
- 47:41– When data meets reality
- 50:41 – Reset strategies during a low point
- 58:46 – Sustainability, recovery, and redefining success
- 1:01:41 – How to become a stronger, healthier, and happier athlete
- 1:04:34 – Where to find Jeff
2 of many important lessons from my conversation with Jeff Pelletier:
1. About Problem-Solving Over Perfection
“It’s not about doing everything perfectly. It’s about having enough tools in your toolbox to tackle all of the problems that inevitably will come up.”
2. About The Purpose of Struggle
“It’s that moment. It’s not to avoid that moment and to get to the other side as quickly as possible. It’s to live in that moment and test myself. See how I do. If it wasn’t for that moment, I don’t think I would enjoy the experience as much, or at least it wouldn’t be as rewarding in hindsight.”
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Cheers,
Floris Gierman
P.S. My new book Running Breakthroughs is available now worldwide as Audio Book, autographed book and eBook. It’s a summary of 10 years podcasting lessons, takeaways from coaching thousands of athletes and my own breakthroughs in running and life.